The "Parthenon marbles" includes marbles not in the collection of Elgin. The British Museum also holds additional fragments from the Parthenon sculptures acquired from various collections that have no connection with Lord Elgin. The "Elgin marbles" includes pieces not from the parthenon, indeed not from the acropolis, and possibly not made of "marble" at all.
It is certainly arguable that Elgin exceeded the authority granted in the firman in both respects". However, there has also long been discussion of the pollution threat in Athens, which is widely agreed and which has been part of the need to build the new gallery next to the Parthenon; also there was considerable vandalism on the Parthenon since Elgin and this is considered a pro-BM position fact by some.
See Article History Elginism, the taking of cultural treasures, often from one country to another usually to a wealthier one.
I understand however that the majority of the English people are in favour to return the marbles. My point is that this should not be in the opening statement, but should be in the correct section- Elgin marbles opinion.
But the British say that Lord Elgin legally purchased the statues from the Ottoman Empire before Greece won its independence and that it would set a disturbing precedent for major museums if they were returned.
The Turks were not representing the Greeks but themselves. During his tenure as British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire —Lord Elgin allegedly received permission from the Turkish government to remove artifacts from Greece, then under Turkish control.
The committee report states on page 69 " Signed with a signet. This page should be renamed to "Akropolis metope and other Greek marbles stolen from Elgin" Filippos Filippos2 Do what you like until someone with balls bans you for vandalism.
Therefore I put a mention of that in.
At any rate, we seem to agree on how the list should appear. Omccreary who added it on the 6th of October I gave my opinion of how the articles should be organized up there.
Legality of the removal from Athens[ edit ] The Acropolis was at that time an Ottoman military fort, so Elgin required special permission to enter the site, the Parthenon, and the surrounding buildings. Because there ought to have been.
He stated that he had obtained a firman from the Sultan which allowed his artists to access the site, but he was unable to produce the original documentation.
The Guardian has written that many among those who support repatriation imply that the marbles would be displayed in their original position on the Parthenon. Parthenon Sculptures Elgin Marbles, collection of ancient Greek sculptures and architectural details in the British MuseumLondonwhere they are now called the Parthenon Sculptures.
The marbles have suffered considerable damage while in London. I found the body of the marble beneath the surface white. Where are they housed? All that said, in wikiland majority rules. The term is sometimes applied to any looting of cultural heritage for personal gain. Does anyone know for sure?
Return colonial artefacts to build bridges post-Brexit, Olusoga says Read more In contrast, Greeks continue to care deeply, and Brexit has provided an opportunity for their government to exercise some pressure.
I have reverted your post which was vandalized by User: The discussion of the polls began as a small portion of the section titled "The British Museum position". Maybe the article could be retitles as "campaign for return of the Elgin Marbles"?
Publicly, however, a different attitude was taken, and the work of dismantling the sculptures on the Parthenon and packing them for shipment to England began in earnest.May 20, · Beautiful modern and airy museum, life size Parthenon with place left for the return of the Elgin marbles, these should now be given back to the Greeks.4/4.
The first serious discussion about returning the Elgin Marbles is said to have been initiated in an exchange of correspondence in a newspaper inwith Courtenay Pollock arguing that the time. Elginism: Elginism, the taking of cultural treasures, often from one country to another (usually to a wealthier one).
It is commonly associated with debates over “cultural patrimony,” “cultural property,” and related international agreements, such as the UNESCO Convention on the Means of Prohibiting and.
Jun 08, · News about Elgin Marbles. Commentary and archival information about Elgin Marbles from The New York Times. Elgin Marbles: Elgin Marbles, collection of ancient Greek sculptures and architectural details in the British Museum, London, where they are now called the Parthenon Sculptures.
The objects were removed from the Parthenon at Athens and from other ancient buildings and shipped to England by arrangement of Thomas. Feb 20, · In “The Real Life of the Parthenon,” Patricia Vigderman visits classic sites of the ancient world, exploring their complex, contested heritage.Download